Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here), lots of focus on being well rounded, confident and self assured, children are instilled with independence and leadership qualities early on, academic but also focuses on other aspects such as presenting well, wit and social spark (her words! Of course, difficult to know at age four where a child will be academically. jags gets more into oxbridge. Might the reason for children not getting into the other school in year 6 be that they are not doing as much preparation, or indeed not being prepared by the school as intensely for the 11+ compared to a prep school, as they already have a place at their existing school? Of course, difficult to know at age four where a child will be academically. Relative taught at one and relatives pupils at both. The children that benefit most from a 4-18 school are those in the middle of the range. I know Jags and Alleyns do prepare for the 11+ for some extent but I thought part of the appeal was that they dont have to focus on it quite so much as the children either have a guaranteed place (Alleyns) or just need to pass the exam (Jags) rather than coming in the top tranche? It is proven by studies that girls do better in single sex schools. Poor old Ebitda couldn't even get to first base with the Jags gals Live nearby. Don't forget the logistical factors - where do you live in relation to each school? More details here. Hello All. Think JC went to Dulwich and Nigel Farridge stole his tuck shop loot. Dont miss your best career move. However, there are a couple of factors to consider: - The academically strong child would get into the senior school in any case. They were known as jags slags . Find adults who went to JAGS v insular and cliquey cf Alleyn's. See as more exclusive. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. Do you also know if the tests are adaptive? I did not prescribe to that view, most did however . They did like to enjoy themselves. very tough to get in too so PERCEIVED (she says in reality both are great!) as better by other schools/universities if want to move on (despite league tables). Glad to see its not the predominant view on here. While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most years though there isn't much in it. Where the senior school is highly academic (definitely JAGS, to a slightly lesser extent Alleyn's) the parents of a quite academically weak child will generally have it "suggested" to them to move their child at 11 or earlier. Thank you. Chances of bursaries / scholarships at 11? Everyone's view might be out of date. Or have children there? (You mentioned a girl, so not getting into the 13+ issue re boys.) They don't need to be. Sending your child to a junior that is connected with a senior school gives a certain level of certainty that they will go straight through into the senior school. The question really is whether to roll up in a Rivian or Lucid. The single sex point noted by Heffalump is the most obvious one. the head at JAGS was an excellent teacher - she taught chemistry at my old school and everyone (even those who struggled) went up two grades. The same 100 girls that apply to Alleyns apply to JAGs. Never quite felt that way across the road. Receive approaches from top law firms and in-house employers when they want someone just like you. Alleyns bent over backwards to accommodate us and we were shown around as a family. I live locally and I don't think Alleyns is perceived to be much better at all. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. Ontier is looking for a paralegal to join its litigation team in London. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here). Got well pissed up there with a niece a few years back. I went to Alleyns, though not the junior school. Assuming your looking for a 4-18 straight through, it's worth thinking about senior school differences between JAGS and Alleyn's. There is a senior exec teacher I know personally at JAGS who I would never want to teach my daughters. What is the public transport like? But maybe thats just one persons opinion. Jags - we liked the new head. Alleyns - wasn't so sold on the head but the new Lower school building and the great sports provision had impressed us. Alleyn's if you have the choice. From what I understand the intake to the secondary school is predominantly via the junior school. Jagz ascot? equally focussed on academics but less so on all the extra curricular activities (in comparison) but still very good, less focused on confidence/leadership qualities although excellent at instilling in girls that its ok to fail; important to keep trying etc, some facilities are not ideal (ie language classes etc done in temporary outside buildings etc). The one thats further from the toxic cesspool that is Dulwich College. Have your daughter attend the pre-selection morning, and how quick did you get the response? U know you're more Stuckey than Edward Lewis, right? I also have a preference for co-ed. Anecdotally, based on the girls I knew at JAGS, it was really really academically pressured, all the way through. Find out more. TLT is seeking a conveyancing technical support officer in Bristol. for what its worth I had a great time there but it was a long time ago. However, still considering JAGS as apparently its supposed to be academically much better than Alleyns. 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Ive heard all the arguments in favour of single sex but still think co-ed is better as thats how it is in the grown up world. - The junior school that is connected with a senior school will not be as good as prep schools at preparing children for getting entrance at 11+ to different senior schools. Question to the OP: Are you looking to send your child to school at 4 so they can go straight through to 18 or would you be thinking about a move at 11? Obviously not four year olds . There are some really helpful comments up there, so thank you. I think the ebitda bot may need reprogramming. On balance, I'd go for Alleyn's because I prefer the co-ed aspect. I know many private schools have changed radically over last 5-15 years. I am aware of colleagues of mine that have had the latter occur (not at JAGS or Alleyn's but comparable London/Surrey indies). Single sex schools tend to be a bit more diverse as some minorities prefer not to have their daughters taught alongside boys. Go for viewings and make your own decisions. So we revisited. ), facilities are amazing (for both junior and secondary) and equal focus on academia as sport/art/performance, high end lunch provision and after school clubs. But there must be some roffers/fettes who went to one of them? JAGs has 35 places at 4+ and Alleyns has 9 for girls at 4+. (at least till they reach puberty and one would hope they have educational incentive enough by then.) so all girls schools are good if you can afford. The open day we went to was great and the girls we met were lovely. I attended a school very near there . Alleyn's from recollection is maybe better known, I recall good results in league tables. I am aware of colleagues of mine that have had the latter occur (not at JAGS or Alleyn's but comparable London/Surrey indies). she was the selling point of the school at the time tho she did have favourites, https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/3807861-Jags-or-Alleyns-junior-sch, so far as I am aware they are both very good schools and I'm sure she'll be fine at either, probably really depends on whether you want her at a single sex school or not. I like JAGS but wouldnt send my child to a single sex school so Alleyns. How long does it take to get there? The consequence is that if you are looking for your child to move at 11+ you may find you have to do a lot of work with them outside of school for them to be competitive, compared with say sending them to Thomas's or similar pre-prep and prep. Send her to a state primary, then a decent rural boarding school. Neither. Any reviews? To verify your identity, please type what you see in the box above. Fun. 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